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Poster: Kwork Date: Jul 12, 2004 3:23am
Forum: etree Subject: Grateful Dead recommendations

I would like to get some opinions. I have a friend who wants some live GD. What are the top recommendations from others out here. I know that's probably debatable for many, still, a series of shows, years, specific shows, I'm just wondering what people consider to be the greatest. Thanks. All help appreciated.

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Poster: lazylyghtning Date: Jul 13, 2004 1:19am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Well Cool, its nice to see some other peoples favs, gives me some ideas. I'll just throw out a few of my all time favs.

3-1-69, I could hum this whole show. Really cool to see someone else mention it too!

6-24-76, they have an AUD of the whole show, make sure to check out the SBD of the second set though, very very nice. The whole second set is just sick.

6-25-85, best 85 show that I have, an old favorite too. The Row Jimmy on this always floors me.

I'll just leave it at that. And thanks to everyone else for giving me a few new shows to check out!

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Poster: DreadnaughtIPA Date: Jul 13, 2004 2:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

3-1-69,I have to agree with ya. This is my first post,as I just joined. I downloaded many shows before joining,mainly from 69 and 77. 3-1 was the 3rd or 4th I got from 69,but is the one that doesn't leave my player! Good Call!

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Jan 8, 2006 2:10am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Let me add another voice to echo Dr Flashback's assertion that the pre coma years of Brent's era was a great run for the band. I saw the boys extensively from 1978-1986 and then 5 - 10 times a year from then 'til the end. To me, the best post 1977 period for the boys was fall 1979-the end of 1982. I recommend the Summer tour, mostly midwest/rockies and mostly outdoors, of 1981. By the summer of 81 the band had become very comfortable with Brent and had somewhat expanded their repetoire. Of particular note, to me at least, are 7/4, 7/5,7/7, 7/11, 7/13, 7/14, 8/26, 8/27, 8/28 and the awesome Greek run, 9/11,12&13. also the New Years run at the Oakland Auditorium Arena (later renamed Henry Kaiser) is one of the strongest 5 show runs of the Brent era, culminating with, what in my opinion is one of the best shows they ever did, 12/31/81. Another great tour is the fall 79 east coast tour, especially 10/27 & 28 and 10/31, 11/1 & 2

This post was modified by Purple Gel on 2006-01-08 09:49:00

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Jan 8, 2006 12:44am
Forum: etree Subject: 5 or 10 most underrated Dead shows

I know this topic has come up before, but putting it in the search engine is not always the best bet. We can start a new thread- which would account for shows people heard for the first time AFTER the last thread about this was going.

Alternately, if someone saved those prior threads and can post a link, that would also be appreciated.

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Poster: *Merlin* Date: Jul 12, 2004 4:49am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Most people will point you to May of '77, an amazing if not overexposed month in GD history. '72-'74 can be a little spacey at times but lots of gooey goodness in there. I'm not a big fan of the '80s but Summer '85 is pretty nice. For newbie 'accessibility' though I'd recommend anything from March '90 and June '91. Hard to find a clunker in those months. My 'desert island' shows:

5/11/72
2/9/73
2/24/74
2/26/77
5/8/77
3/29,3/30/90
6/14,6/17/91


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Poster: chip_christian Date: Jul 12, 2004 6:37am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Boy, what a loaded question...

I've been listening to October '68 recently. What a high point! But of course, I guess it depends what yer into.

5/8/77 is a must, of course.

I love 3/1/69.

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Poster: mickey622 Date: Jul 12, 2004 9:58am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Yup, just about anything from 68. February through March 1969 there were so many great shows. Most shows from the Capitol Theater, Portchester in '70 and '71.
Forget it... we could be here all night.

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Poster: Cucumber Date: Jul 12, 2004 6:54am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Spring, 1977.

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Poster: gummybear Date: May 3, 2006 3:58am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

I agree we could be here all night. This may be a little off topic but does anyone know if a soundboard exists of Shoreline 9/18/94 I would love a sbd of that So many Roads.

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Poster: happytrails Date: Jul 12, 2004 6:04am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

You will get a hundred different opinions based on familiarity and other taste biases. For me there are something like 10 to 20 shows that I consider the best and still listen to with any regularity. 2-13-70, 4-28 & 29-71, 9-28-72, 2-9-73, 2-24-74, 6-18-74, 8-6-74, 5-8-77 (lots of May 77), last disc of 10-29-77 from estimated on...(probably my favorite single disk - recently), 7-28-82, 7-31-82 (& alot of that summer tour, too, is highly regarded - tho I haven't heard most of it), 10-17-83, 3-31-89. I am definitely biased toward shows before 82-83, and almost entirely dismiss the 90s (I know that may not be fair, but I do) and these are pretty easy for newly minted listener to appreciate, but that, too, is debatable. My philosophy is "as goes Phil, so Goes the Grateful Dead." And I think these are some of the sharpest shows (or parts). Good Luck deciding.

By the way, ----Dr. Flashback----
I seem to have similar tastes as you; I want to see your list, cuz I'd go with some of those that I am currently unfamiliar with. Without having to go thru the entire database......)

This post was modified by happytrails on 2004-07-12 13:04:11

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Poster: dr. flashback Date: Jul 12, 2004 7:17pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Dear happy trails - thanks for the howdy. I didn't even try and respond to this person's question.Too many shows to recommend,I'd end up writing a thesis, LOL.Glad that yourself and some kind others did respond. That's what this community is all about. We were all new to the Dead once.
Yes indeed, out tastes seem to parallel pretty well. All of the 70's shows you mentioned are on my classics list, and then some.And BTW, what about 2/14/68, 8/21/68, 10/13/68, 2/28/69, 4/21/69 and 2/11/70? All these are on my top 5's list.
And BTW, been listening to that 10/29/77 show lately myself. Isn't it incredible? I started downloading shows in earnest in 1998 (pre-Bush), and have done little else besides listen to and evaluate Dead shows in the past 5 years. I think I've got the 60's and 70's down pretty good. The 80's I've heard some of, but I don't do AUD, and until recently there weren't lots of 80's SBD's out there. I do tend to prefer the 80 thru 85 period, the "pre-coma" years. I hope to get around to reviewing some 80's shows when I hear more and get time. Right now I'm stuck in 1972-73 and lovin it!
Let me also agree and comment on,
1. As goes Phil - yes, and also, after about 1976, as goes Jerry's drug habit. If you read the books you can see when it was in the 80's that his addiction to "Persian" smokable heroin became a problem. And there are many 80's shows where this is obvious, esp. by 1985 and 1986. Many times he's just going thru the motions on songs and the creative spark is not there. You see some 1985 show with an Other One and you think, great! But then you listen to it and realize it only lasts 7 minutes or something. Pitiful compared to the 72-73 versions.
2. On the other hand, 3/13/81, 5/6/81, 8/28/81, 8/10/82, 9/11/82, 5/14/83, 10/21/83 and 11/2/84 are all super shows I would recommend. They even thrill and old 70's freak like me.
3. The 90's, well what can you say? I saw them a couple of times in the 90's, and that was enough. It was obvious here was a band in physical, spiritual and musical decline. Some of the younger fans who rave on 90's shows, I think it's due to the fact they haven't really heard much 60's-70's and so they don't have a quality base from which to judge a really good show.
4. Now let me contradict myself, there are some 90-91 shows with Bruce Hornsby that are just outstanding!! So you have to be very picky about 90's shows.
5. But if I'm recommending to a newbie what I think are the best and most representative shows to get into the Dead with, the 90's would be at the bottom of my list.
6. I love Brent's keyboard work, esp. B-3 organ. I like his harmonies okay. But I hate his songs. Bad judgement guys, but oh well. The Beatles let Ringo sing didn't they?
7. I have read and liked your reviews. Can we correspond privately and discuss lists, shows and more? nostradam@earthlink.net
8. This is meant to be a private response to happytrails, and so I have been more candid than usual with my opinions. Those readers who have strong opinions about the 80's, 90's should take heed and not be offended. LOL
Still in stunned-stoned disbelief here in LAMA heaven!
Dr. Flashback ;-)))))

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Poster: happytrails Date: Jul 13, 2004 1:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Dr. - Thanks for the response, I will email you when I have some time - probably later today, but I got the address. So, you might want to edit and pull it so it isn't out there for public consumption. Peace

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 3, 2006 5:57am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

If you can get a SBD copy of 10-29-77 (no longer available hear 'cept as streaming), present that, and if he's not impressed, give up.

Other recommendations: 5-1-81, available here as a very fine AUD. Try the Let it Grow>Deal out and go from there.

The Summer Shows from Alpine Valley, WI. in 1989 are a can't miss, and yes, just about anything from 1977's May to June runs or the shows that ended the year at the Winterland (See Dick's Picks #10, i believe) are guaranteed to please.

Good luck!

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Poster: Kwork Date: Jul 13, 2004 1:40am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Wow!! This is wonderful. I really don't care if any of you write novels. That's kind of what I'm looking for, concise lists, novels, analysis, etc, it's all good. Keep them coming if you like. Personally, I prefer anything from 1968-1974, that I've heard so far, but I will definitely file all of your recommendations. I'm trying to become more well rounded in my GD knowledge. Again, excellent!! Thanks, and don't hesitate to keep them coming.

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Poster: chip_christian Date: Jul 13, 2004 3:19am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Oh, and did I mention 2/11/70?

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Poster: Kwork Date: Jul 13, 2004 7:15am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

From Chip Christian:

Oh, and did I mention 2/11/70?
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You did now. Smile. Thanks. Since I like the officially released 2-11-69, why not the same date from the following year. I'll have to check it out.

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Poster: mickey622 Date: Jul 13, 2004 8:30am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

I don't think anybody mentioned 8/27/72 Veneta. My favorite China Cat / Rider. Even before I saw the video I could picture Jerry standing there staring out and blazing away. And an immense Dark Star. Lots of "High" points in this show. (I haven't checked to see if the video is here somewhere, if not I'll try to put it up... it's a gas)
And don't forget 7/8/78 - Red Rocks... really nothing bad about this show.
I don't usually go much past late '78. I'm not a big Brent fan and I thought the band lost some direction in the eighties. But I thought the acoustic shows they did in 1980 were great.

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Poster: GJR Date: Jul 13, 2004 11:53pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

I read a thread like this once and jotted down all of the dates which might be worthwhile. I thought that might be the end of it. Well, it was just the beginning; thanks first to gdlive.com and next furthur.net and finally now the "mother of all GD resources"- the Live Music Archive, I keep finding more and more quality, good ol' GD.

But back to your question, its all about your time preference. Take a couple of dates of shows from each year and dig deeper into the years which are interesting to you. Personally, 1968-1974 accounts for 70+ % of my collection.

Thanks, a million times over, to the Live Music Archive staff.

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Poster: claytoarus Date: Jul 14, 2004 11:12pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

everyone loves 9-18-87 too

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Poster: sudigsit Date: Jul 17, 2004 2:24pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

i prefer 1970-74 and '77-'78 myself, but must mention that there are a few shows from '89 and '90 that really do get overlooked. i'd especially recommend 7/17 and 7/18/89 alpine valley and the nye run from '90.

but from 70-74 and 77-78, there's not a lot you can go wrong with, IMHO, though i'll give 2/24/74 winterland special mention.

good luck!

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Poster: steinway Date: Jul 18, 2004 12:25am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

I've seen the acronym IMHO a couple of times in the reviews of the Dead shows... what does it mean?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsuspect Date: Jul 19, 2004 4:58am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

It can also mean "In my honest opinion" but i'd go with humble :)

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Poster: Kwork Date: Jul 19, 2004 7:39am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

Thank you all for your wonderful recommendations. This has been great. It's always nice to hear many opinions on this subject. I'd rather have too many shows to consider, rather than too few. Thanks again, all of you who answered.

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Poster: Steve In Austin Date: Jul 18, 2004 1:58am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead recommendations

In my humble opinion, IMHO means "In my humble opinion."

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Poster: Docter Date: Jul 19, 2004 12:57am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Some of my choices for n00b_01

5/9/77, 9/10/91, 5/26/73, 3/1/69, Some decent acoustic show from '80(or Reckoning). One From the Vault, 11/6/77, 7/8/78, 7/17/89, 3/26,29/90.

You may want to warn him about Playin's from 72-74. =)

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